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Prepare To Meet Thy Doom!
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My Internet was down last night, still was down early this morning and I had a dentist appointment... so it's no surprise there are a ton of posts in regards to this subject when I get here.
So I don't have time to respond to everything, but I will say this: If Cutler isn't willing to mend fences and continues to have his feelings hurt because he was in a trade talk discussion, that's his problem. If Cutler would rather spend more time listening to Bus Cook than hearing what Josh McDaniels has to say, that's Cutler's problem. Therefore, if Cutler makes it clear only his agent's words count any more, he can take his ball and go play somewhere else. Elway may not have liked Reeves. He never got to the point, though, that he refused to speak to anybody in the franchise. He learned to "get along" with Reeves. Ditto Favre with Mike Holmgren. Ditto Bradshaw with Chuck Noll, when Bradshaw could have easily told Noll off after he took over the team and led them to that first Super Bowl. Oh, but then there was Favre complaining he didn't really want to retire. Packer fans complained and made it be known they wanted Favre to start. Didn't happen... and while the Packers struggled this year, it was mostly on the defense's shoulders, plus the running game not being there... but Aaron Rodgers performed very well. We may have adjustments to make on defense. We may have to make adjustments on our running game. But we'll find a passer, be it Chris Simms, Jason Campbell, Brady Quinn or whoever else it is that takes over. We have a quality offensive line and a good corp of wide receivers, so in time, I have faith and confidence that the Broncos will improve. For the naysayers out there who live and die by what the quarterback does or doesn't do for a franchise, you are entitled to your opinion... but the bottom line is, no player is above the team. If Cutler wasn't above the team, he might grumble about the trade talk in private conversation, but when asked publicly about it, he'd say "no comment" and tell his agent to butt out. But he didn't, did he? So I shed no tears for Cutler parting ways with the franchise. And I'm still a Bronco fan, through and through. Here's to the next era of the Denver Broncos.
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And can we please stop with the following red herrings:
Former Pro Bowl QB: So was Brian Griese. More to the point, the Pro Bowl is meaningless. Fans vote for their favorite players, the players themselves admit they tend to vote for names they recognize, so there's two-thirds of the equations that doesn't always vote for the best players. Former first-round pick: Do I even need to get into this one? The defense was bad and we had no running game: Aaron Rodgers had the same situation in Green Bay and he performed very well for his first season. In fact, I'd bet Rodgers would not only post the same numbers playing for Denver last season, but we might hvae actually won a couple more games because he was far less mistake prone than Cutler. Franchise QBs mean Super Bowl dynasties: In this day and age, Super Bowl dynasties are tougher to come by. You might argue the Patriots have one, but it's not a clear-cut case like the Niners of the 80s and the Steelers of the 70s. And how well have most franchise QBs done in terms of Super Bowl wins? The only two with more than one ring are Ben Roethlisberger (who doesn't post monster numbers) and Tom Brady (who is now coming off an injury). Kurt Warner, the former Arena Football player and grocery bagger, has one and others have eluded him. Peyton Manning has one Super Bowl trip to his credit, Drew Brees has one playoff trip... need I go on? Just once, I'd like to see rock solid evidence (not speculation or comparison) that the end of the franchise is near if Cutler is dealt. Next season, we may finish 8-8 again (just as Mike Shanahan did his first season as head coach), but in the long run, I bet we'll be better off for it... and we may find our franchise QB in some other player.
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Oh, and it's funny how McDaniels texts Cutler asking him to talk, McDaniels gets reamed over the coals for this sorry way of communicating, but apparently the media is communicating with Cutler through texting.
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Get Yo Freak On
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yes, we know you're loving this obi
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It's song dedication time for Cutler. I do this because I'm not that good at Photoshop.
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Shanahan won one more game than the previous season. The defense improved to 15th. He also found a running attack.
Shanahan inherited a Broncos team with many of the same flaws as McDaniels. I expect production and progress. |
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Woo Hoo!!!!....WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE....The Chiefs will be winners in 2010
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Broncos won't lose much if they trade Cutler.
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I hope more people do not make such accurate comments about Cutler's game...we'll get nothing for the guy
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ok...so I've stood by most everything McD & Bowlen have done to this point
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scenario/wishfull thinking farve comes back for 1 year to take over the void left by whinebag/cutler and grooms sanchez....just a thought
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Just keep on slingin' it!
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Trade him to the raiders! He will be kicking ours for the next ten years. Trade with an NFC team...
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this is the same guy that many of his now detractors, dude and scar, once called the best owner in all of sports! 25 years down the drain on the word of a greedy agent and punk QB ! I dont blame Bowlen for being livid ! and just maybe, JC has been hood-winked by his OWN agent in this whole drama, just like yoko ono controlled all the info coming to john lennon and drove a wedge beteen him and his beatle mates ! COOK is the devil ! cutler at the very least, an idiot. they deserve each other and a steak dinner in detroit ! I hope these april fools have ruined cutlers career for LIFE ! I beleive BOWLENwhen he says for the last 10 days he was unavble to reach cutler! and cutlers denials are nothing more than the same BS I would expect from a guy who first uttered the phrase "TRADE" then got offended when he was discussed in a trade scenario ! says he plays for his teammates, what a pile of rancid dog meat ! floyd little got FIRED in the middle of a game! he stayed and played and helped his team win ! floyd was a man, he was a football player and he played as a bronco his entire career ! why his image is not part of our FREAK logo is beyond me, the fact that #6 is still on display is %^&%%$# infuriating !
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http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_12051237
If the quarterback for the Broncos required a million-dollar throwing arm, then Jay Cutler's next drive would not be out of town, with his two-bit, nobody-loves-me attitude packed in the trunk. What the heck does brash new Denver coach Josh McDaniels want in a QB? The right stuff that Cutler stubbornly and mistakenly expected his new boss to take on faith. So go away mad, Jay-C. It's what you do best, whether feuding with San Diego Chargers rival Philip Rivers or feeling dissed by McDaniels. The next Broncos quarterback might not have the talent of Cutler, but, in victory and defeat, he will exhibit the winning traits prized by McDaniels: 1) The football family values instilled in Chris Simms 2) Toughness Brady Quinn forged from the heat of criticism 3) A championship tradition that shaped USC's Mark Sanchez Let's cut through all the "J's of our Lives" melodrama and get down to the real nitty-gritty of why Cutler was not meant to play for McDaniels. We love what we know. From the beginning, McDaniels and Cutler never saw enough they liked to form the trusting relationship needed by an NFL coach and his quarterback. What McDaniels knew to be as good as championship gold in New England were these traits in a quarterback: unflappable poise, the humility to take what the defense gives and acceptance of criticism in the pursuit of victory. For all his obvious physical gifts, self-reliance and refusal to surrender, Cutler is cursed by a thin skin and a thick head. Despite studying at the Southeastern Conference's brainiac university and passing the Wonderlic test with flying colors, Cutler was not smart enough to act like a championship quarterback. Let's go to the videotape for proof. During a 33-19 loss to Kansas City in September, Cutler came unglued in the third quarter, all because a journeyman receiver named Cliff Russell made a mistake on a pass route, resulting in an incompletion. During a timeout the anger was written in red on Cutler's face. He was spitting mad. Hey, stuff happens. An NFL quarterback is paid big bucks to manage a crisis, not melt down. But, when the Broncos returned to the field, Cutler threw two interceptions in the team's next four offensive snaps, committing the turnovers within a span of 60 seconds that saw Denver unravel in a revealing defeat to a truly awful AFC West opponent. The New England offensive system known and loved by McDaniels requires its quarterback to adapt and change from week to week to exploit the weakness of a given defense, rather than take the dare-stop-me approach championed in Denver by Cutler and John Elway before him. Anybody who has seen Patriots quarterback Tom Brady in the jubilation of a championship or accept the heartbreak of an undefeated season's magic going poof has been impressed by a true pro with the humility of a former sixth-round draft choice who genuinely does not believe he's entitled to anything from anybody. McDaniels is going to require his quarterback to do more than manage a game. He will ask him to set a tone that nothing can shake the Broncos' focus or dent the team's mental toughness. My favorite very Brady moment is not a touchdown pass, but the unflappable smile he wore at the epicenter of Super Bowl media day madness, when a Latino actress dressed in a wedding dress shouted a wedding proposal at the quarterback. Nah, Brady replied with an aw-shucks shrug of his shoulders, politely telling his suitor he was already taken. If a trade lands Cutler in New York with the Jets, let's see the tabloid headline he inspires upon rolling his eyes and checking his cellphone for text messages in response to the first question he deems as stupid in defeat. Cutler threw away the support of franchise owner Pat Bowlen and lost the trust of McDaniels because a hot- headed quarterback lost his cool once too often in the face of pressure. It's 15 minutes until the NFL draft, the clock is ticking on Denver to trade Cutler, and we all know Brady ain't walking through that door at Dove Valley. So the task for McDaniels is to find a quarterback who wants to be here and is willing to deal with the hassles of a town where football is treated like religion, but the congregation has been known to stand up when things are going badly on Sunday to shout a four-letter word other than "Amen." Bless the man crazy enough to take the job. In Denver, playing quarterback is as much a test of character as football skill.
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