Do we have the best offense in the league? - Broncos Freaks

SoTxBroncFan · 09-16-2008, 02:38 PM

I wouldn't have even considered this before the season. But with the emergence of Eddie Casino Royal, and the much improved play of the OLine this offense looks unstoppable right now.

Here's my opinion of how the Broncos stack up to some of the better offenses in the league.

San Diego

QB - Edge to Denver. Though it's closer to a push than I'd like to admit. Rivers is a good QB, he just doesn't have the tools and cool that Jay has.

RB - Big Edge to SD. LT is a top 3 RB when healthy, and even with him hobbled right now It's clear that Sproles is more than adequate when needed.

WRs - Huge edge to Denver. Marsh, Casino, and Stokely are far and away better than Chambers, VJax, and Buster Davis. Marshall could be the best WR in the league before the year is over.

TE - Edge to SD. But it's much closer than most would think. Gates is still the man when fully healthy. Scheff closes the gap this year, and Graham is the best blocking TE in the league.

OLine - Push. Neither unit gives up many sacks, and both open plenty of holes to run through. Both good young lines.

Overall - Push. Just too close in too many areas. Both great offenses. And young.

Dallas Cowboys

QB - Push. Romo throws a great ball, and makes a lot of things happen with his feet. He's been known to choke in December and the playoffs, but Jay hasn't even been there yet so I won't deduct too much from Romo.

RB - Huge edge to Dallas. Barber and Jones are the best thunder and lighting tandem in the league.

WR - Edge to Broncos. Marshall and TO are much closer to each other than most around the country would ever imagine. Marshall should never be called baby TO ever again. He's just Brandon now. Royal, Stokely, and Jackson > Crayton, Austin, and ?. Broncos have more weapons.

TE - Edge to Cowboys. Witten is the best TE in the league.

Oline - Edge to Cowboys. They've been together longer, and dominate the trenches with their big bodies. Hard to get to Romo.

Overall - Edge to Cowboys. Witten and the Barion/Jones tandem give them the edge.

Colts

QB - Edge to Colts. Peyton is still Peyton. Give cutler 3 more years and he could be at that level.

RB - Push. Addai had a good first half last year, but hasn't shown much of anything this yera. Broncos RBBC matches is his output.

WR - Push. Wayne is one of the best in the league. Gonzalez and Harrison (though he's on his last legs) are pretty darn good. Marshall cancels out Wayne and the Stokely/Royal duo matches the colts 2/3 guys. Harrison 2 years ago and this isn't even close.

TE - Edge to Broncos. Dallas Clark is a great TE, but he's hurting right now and there isn't much backing him up. Scheff matches his numbers this year, and they don't have anyone that matches Graham's blocking

Oline - Huge edge to Broncos right now. The Idny line is in shambles. Too many injuries.

Overall - Edge to Denver. Manning looked frazzled behind that line on Sunday. Cutler has been sacked once this year (and it wasn't even a sack). Cutler with time runs a better offense than Manning behind that line.

Eagles -

QB - Push. When Mcnabb is healthy like he is now, he's a terrific QB. But Cutler is matching him in all categories, and doesn't have the injury history.

RB - Huge edge to Eagles. Westbrook is out of this world good. Broncos RBBC can't match all the things he can do.

WR - Huge edge to the Broncos right now. Eagles #1 and (maybe) #2 guys are hurting right now in Reggie Brown and Kevin Curtis. But even with those 2 guys healthy I'd give the Broncos a small edge. Marshall is head and shoulders above anyone the have. Royal is just as good a rookie prospect aas Desean.

TE - Edge to the Broncos. LJ Smith is a good pass catcher. But the Scheff/Graham duo gives the broncos the edge.

Oline - Push. Cowboys had Donovan running all night but that is a good pass rush defense. Eagles do have a good oline, but Andrews got hurt last night and he's their best blocker. Edge to Broncos if Andrews isn't healthy soon.

Overall - Push. Westbrook is that good.

I'll do a few more later. Pittsburg and Green Bay are both very good.

Rickomatic · 09-16-2008, 03:05 PM

Pittman has been better than I thought he could be as the short yardage guy. I am just waiting to see if Hall or Young becomes a clear choice.

Rickomatic · 09-16-2008, 03:09 PM

One point I love about this year's offense is that so far they are 8 of 10 scoring touchdowns in the redzone. 1 field goal and 1 turnover (int) with the other two possessions. So much better than the past few years.

SoTxBroncFan · 09-16-2008, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rickomatic

One point I love about this year's offense is that so far they are 8 of 10 scoring touchdowns in the redzone. 1 field goal and 1 turnover (int) with the other two possessions. So much better than the past few years.

Biggest difference so far from last year to this year. We aren't settling for fieldgoals. Pittman has been great as the shortyardage guy.

Cutler running the shotgun has been unstoppable. I'm excited to see what he can do against a terrible New Orleans secondary.

Rickomatic · 09-16-2008, 05:22 PM

Denver leads the league with 80 points so far this year (40 ppg). No reason to think that number will go down.

SoTxBroncFan · 09-16-2008, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rickomatic

Denver leads the league with 80 points so far this year (40 ppg). No reason to think that number will go down.

Well, 40 points per game might be a bit much. BUUUT, if the defense plays that bad all year we're probably gonna have to score 40.

Harkov · 09-16-2008, 06:12 PM

Well, the Patriots put up 36.81/game last year...didn't get them another super bowl ring though...

Psychotron · 09-16-2008, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rickomatic

One point I love about this year's offense is that so far they are 8 of 10 scoring touchdowns in the redzone. 1 field goal and 1 turnover (int) with the other two possessions. So much better than the past few years.

Totally agree, that is a great surprise. I'm super excited about the OLine play, they are giving Cutler plenty of time. I was excited for the offense after the first game but cautious because it was against the raiduhs, I feel better now because the dolts defense is pretty good and they got burned. It's still only two games in but there really is no reason to think they can't keep this up.

Psychotron · 09-16-2008, 06:20 PM

Casino is much the same player as DeSean without the smugness and attitude. Too bad Casino is not getting the same attention as DeSean but it really doesn't matter.

SoTxBroncFan · 09-16-2008, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Psychotron

Casino is much the same player as DeSean without the smugness and attitude. Too bad Casino is not getting the same attention as DeSean but it really doesn't matter.

I was actually at the game here in San Antonio when Desean tried to do a forward flip from the 5 yard line and landed at the 1. Funniest thing seeing him screw up again like that last night. I called my buddy who was with me at the Alamodome that day and we had a great laugh.

zambini15 · 09-17-2008, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by rickomatic

Pittman has been better than I thought he could be as the short yardage guy. I am just waiting to see if Hall or Young becomes a clear choice.

when Pittman played for the CARDS he led the league in receptions and YAC for all NFL running-backs.
Did that for a couple of years with Jake the Snake as his QB.

zambini15 · 09-17-2008, 01:19 AM

CUTLER is the KEY to this entire potent, arial assault.
His arsenal of receivers each posess certain talents that allow them to present themselves in just the right windows of opportunity.
and JAY'S accuracy and velocity, make it all work.
We now run the ball to keep them honest, catch them off-guard.
Thats a viable scheme, weather permitting.
however...
ask DAN FOUTS how many RINGS he won, scoring like a lunatic.
"run the ball, STOP the run " that's how most lombardis are won.

Rickomatic · 09-17-2008, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Harkov

Well, the Patriots put up 36.81/game last year...didn't get them another super bowl ring though...

18 and 1 and that one, they just couldn't adjust. that was a coaching flaw.

09-16-2008, 06:12 PM	#7
Harkov Get Yo Freak On Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NJ Age: 35 Posts: 11,802 Salute: 2,182 Saluted 3,363 Times in 1,836 Posts	Well, the Patriots put up 36.81/game last year...didn't get them another super bowl ring though... __________________ BroncosFreaks "It's a funny thing, the more I practice the luckier I get." - Arnold Palmer

09-16-2008, 06:20 PM	#9
Psychotron BroncosFreak Affiliate Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Los Angeles Age: 33 Posts: 1,481 Salute: 262 Saluted 188 Times in 117 Posts	Casino is much the same player as DeSean without the smugness and attitude. Too bad Casino is not getting the same attention as DeSean but it really doesn't matter. __________________ You cannot change your destiny. You can however, rise up to meet it.

09-17-2008, 01:19 AM	#12
zambini15 bustin' CAPS upside you Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Mayor of Curmudgeonville, AZ Age: 55 Posts: 20,663 Salute: 6,526 Saluted 3,361 Times in 2,137 Posts	CUTLER is the KEY to this entire potent, arial assault. His arsenal of receivers each posess certain talents that allow them to present themselves in just the right windows of opportunity. and JAY'S accuracy and velocity, make it all work. We now run the ball to keep them honest, catch them off-guard. Thats a viable scheme, weather permitting. however... ask DAN FOUTS how many RINGS he won, scoring like a lunatic. "run the ball, STOP the run " that's how most lombardis are won. __________________ run the ball , EARLY, protect ORTON

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09-16-2008, 02:38 PM	#1
SoTxBroncFan I want a liter a cola! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Antonio By God Texas Age: 27 Posts: 1,553 Salute: 593 Saluted 746 Times in 456 Posts	Do we have the best offense in the league? I wouldn't have even considered this before the season. But with the emergence of Eddie Casino Royal, and the much improved play of the OLine this offense looks unstoppable right now. Here's my opinion of how the Broncos stack up to some of the better offenses in the league. San Diego QB - Edge to Denver. Though it's closer to a push than I'd like to admit. Rivers is a good QB, he just doesn't have the tools and cool that Jay has. RB - Big Edge to SD. LT is a top 3 RB when healthy, and even with him hobbled right now It's clear that Sproles is more than adequate when needed. WRs - Huge edge to Denver. Marsh, Casino, and Stokely are far and away better than Chambers, VJax, and Buster Davis. Marshall could be the best WR in the league before the year is over. TE - Edge to SD. But it's much closer than most would think. Gates is still the man when fully healthy. Scheff closes the gap this year, and Graham is the best blocking TE in the league. OLine - Push. Neither unit gives up many sacks, and both open plenty of holes to run through. Both good young lines. Overall - Push. Just too close in too many areas. Both great offenses. And young. Dallas Cowboys QB - Push. Romo throws a great ball, and makes a lot of things happen with his feet. He's been known to choke in December and the playoffs, but Jay hasn't even been there yet so I won't deduct too much from Romo. RB - Huge edge to Dallas. Barber and Jones are the best thunder and lighting tandem in the league. WR - Edge to Broncos. Marshall and TO are much closer to each other than most around the country would ever imagine. Marshall should never be called baby TO ever again. He's just Brandon now. Royal, Stokely, and Jackson > Crayton, Austin, and ?. Broncos have more weapons. TE - Edge to Cowboys. Witten is the best TE in the league. Oline - Edge to Cowboys. They've been together longer, and dominate the trenches with their big bodies. Hard to get to Romo. Overall - Edge to Cowboys. Witten and the Barion/Jones tandem give them the edge. Colts QB - Edge to Colts. Peyton is still Peyton. Give cutler 3 more years and he could be at that level. RB - Push. Addai had a good first half last year, but hasn't shown much of anything this yera. Broncos RBBC matches is his output. WR - Push. Wayne is one of the best in the league. Gonzalez and Harrison (though he's on his last legs) are pretty darn good. Marshall cancels out Wayne and the Stokely/Royal duo matches the colts 2/3 guys. Harrison 2 years ago and this isn't even close. TE - Edge to Broncos. Dallas Clark is a great TE, but he's hurting right now and there isn't much backing him up. Scheff matches his numbers this year, and they don't have anyone that matches Graham's blocking Oline - Huge edge to Broncos right now. The Idny line is in shambles. Too many injuries. Overall - Edge to Denver. Manning looked frazzled behind that line on Sunday. Cutler has been sacked once this year (and it wasn't even a sack). Cutler with time runs a better offense than Manning behind that line. Eagles - QB - Push. When Mcnabb is healthy like he is now, he's a terrific QB. But Cutler is matching him in all categories, and doesn't have the injury history. RB - Huge edge to Eagles. Westbrook is out of this world good. Broncos RBBC can't match all the things he can do. WR - Huge edge to the Broncos right now. Eagles #1 and (maybe) #2 guys are hurting right now in Reggie Brown and Kevin Curtis. But even with those 2 guys healthy I'd give the Broncos a small edge. Marshall is head and shoulders above anyone the have. Royal is just as good a rookie prospect aas Desean. TE - Edge to the Broncos. LJ Smith is a good pass catcher. But the Scheff/Graham duo gives the broncos the edge. Oline - Push. Cowboys had Donovan running all night but that is a good pass rush defense. Eagles do have a good oline, but Andrews got hurt last night and he's their best blocker. Edge to Broncos if Andrews isn't healthy soon. Overall - Push. Westbrook is that good. I'll do a few more later. Pittsburg and Green Bay are both very good. __________________ Gotta keep your eyes on the Prize!!!!

09-16-2008, 03:05 PM	#2
Rickomatic Touch of Grey Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: West Wendover, NV Age: 48 Posts: 9,082 Salute: 1,017 Saluted 1,032 Times in 624 Posts	Pittman has been better than I thought he could be as the short yardage guy. I am just waiting to see if Hall or Young becomes a clear choice.

09-16-2008, 03:09 PM	#3
Rickomatic Touch of Grey Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: West Wendover, NV Age: 48 Posts: 9,082 Salute: 1,017 Saluted 1,032 Times in 624 Posts	One point I love about this year's offense is that so far they are 8 of 10 scoring touchdowns in the redzone. 1 field goal and 1 turnover (int) with the other two possessions. So much better than the past few years.

09-16-2008, 05:22 PM	#5
Rickomatic Touch of Grey Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: West Wendover, NV Age: 48 Posts: 9,082 Salute: 1,017 Saluted 1,032 Times in 624 Posts	Denver leads the league with 80 points so far this year (40 ppg). No reason to think that number will go down.

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