CUTLER TO THE BEARS!

[0broncofan0]

Originally Posted by Rogue

You say that like its a bad thing....

That's because it is. We just shrunk the field. There is no more need to have Marshall or anyone that can stretch the field b/c we no longer have a QB that can get them the ball. All our offense is going to be dink and dunk. Exciting woohoo!

[The Dude]

I'm sure Orton has the haircut and body language to lead this team.

[chanesaw]

The last 3 months have been the hardest months for me as a Bronco fan for over 20 years. Even worse then bad playoff loses because we had to have success to at least reach the playoffs. First we fire Shanahan, now we trade Cutler. Stupid. They were why we were average rather than just suck. This has set us back for over 10 years. Jay is one of those guys that don't come around very often. We look like idiots now, in 10-12 years we will really look stupid. On the bright side we won't have to worry about a bad playoff loss for a long time.

[burnettfab56223]

I love this trade.. do I like orton sort of ..he has shown he can play in this league last year he had a great 1st half last year 6-2 as a starter I believe had a rough go in the second half though and I don't believe we would get a good pick from the bears next year unless cutler gets hurt early in the season much like brady did this year am I rooting cutler gets hurt ...NO! I thought we had a chance at the playoffs this year but now I don't think we have a shot now it is going to be a long year ...unless we find that diamond in the rough QB say possibly Chase Daniels from Missouri we could probly get him in the 3rd round or later he is a drop back passer much like cutler was but without the arm strength he had ...but who does?

[burnettfab56223]

prediction: 5 years from now in the super bowl Denver vs Chicago... McDaniels vs Cutler... that would be a good story much like Elway vs Reeves

[athomp_21]

Originally Posted by burnettfab56223

prediction: 5 years from now in the super bowl Denver vs Chicago... McDaniels vs Cutler... that would be a good story much like Elway vs Reeves

Elway won....

[CasinoRoyal]

Urlacher didnt totally endrose Cutler...he said i guess cutler is good, He stamped Orton as a good quarterback. Orton is well respected in that bears locker room.

[zambini15]

Originally Posted by Brand

What I think many "fans" do not understand is that Cutler "fit" the Shanahan type of O. Bowlen opted to go with a different style of O, and that is where Cutler did not fit the McD style. "Gunslinger" is not in McDs vocabulary. The clue is that the YAC stas are more improtant than the flinging the ball 65 yards in the air. Orton may actually fit the new O better. If not, then I would think the FO would look for the guy that fits what the O is going to be.

I dont think a QB responsable for 20 turnovers "fits' any system.
the guy failed to put 21 points on the board 12 of our 16 games!
yards, YES, points, NO !
they dont hand out "W" for most yards !
seeya jc, dont need ya, we are a team NOW, not a pedastal for a QB to rack up fantasy points !

[artie_dale]

Dang it! Would we be stoked if we got Rex Grossman??? Well, the way I see it, Kyle Orten would compete neck and neck with Rex Grossman, and it's always be a close race. I'm not giving Orten any credit or leeway. I think Orten had better posture and less injury prone. I'm worried. I'm glad I'm in my low 30's, which means hopefully, I'll still be alive when this team gets a chance to be fun to watch again. Orten!?!?! WTF are they thinking???

[zambini15]

"set us back ten years"
thats brilliant objectivity !
mosy of you negative nancys are not even worth the argument.
Il ove how some of these clowns on TV are comparing JC to the manning brothers, BRADY and rothlesburger and calling JC a Superbowl QB !
really?, and called the denver offense, first a corvette and the a ferrari
oh realy? , that "super vehicle" failed to score 21 points 12 times last year !
and soorry, I dont recall seeing JC in any play-off games, let alone a superbowl!
BEARS defense, not that good,last year, check the stats, some of you guys continue to live in the past !
receivers, awful, O-line, worse!
and their division competition, the LIONS and the VIKINGS, were both losers in the cutler sweepstakes, so he will definately have a bullseye on his head when he plays them !
I remain a bronco fan, and I continue to support JMCD and bowlen until they give me good cause not to !
cutler fans, let me share this with you:
I am also a huge SUNS fan, I was" LIVID-times-TEN " when they traded away JASON KIDD !
we got in some kid that played for the suns before,an average back-up, a servicable small guard, terrible defender, and certainly no triple double threat like KIDD.
that "replacement" turned out to be STEVE NASH,
need I say more?
those pitchforlks and flaming torches are going to get heavy, hauling them around all year, why not set them down and give the NEW TEAM and OUR coach a chance before you line them all up in front of the firing squad?
just a thought.

[artie_dale]

Originally Posted by zambini15

"set us back ten years"
thats brilliant objectivity !
mosy of you negative nancys are not even worth the argument.
Il ove how some of these clowns on TV are comparing JC to the manning brothers, BRADY and rothlesburger and calling JC a Superbowl QB !
really?, and called the denver offense, first a corvette and the a ferrari
oh realy? , that "super vehicle" failed to score 21 points 12 times last year !
and soorry, I dont recall seeing JC in any play-off games, let alone a superbowl!
BEARS defense, not that good,last year, check the stats, some of you guys continue to live in the past !
receivers, awful, O-line, worse!
and their division competition, the LIONS and the VIKINGS, were both losers in the cutler sweepstakes, so he will definately have a bullseye on his head when he plays them !
I remain a bronco fan, and I continue to support JMCD and bowlen until they give me good cause not to !
cutler fans, let me share this with you:
I am also a huge SUNS fan, I was" LIVID-times-TEN " when they traded away JASON KIDD !
we got in some kid that played for the suns before,an average back-up, a servicable small guard, terrible defender, and certainly no triple double threat like KIDD.
that "replacement" turned out to be STEVE NASH,
need I say more?
those pitchforlks and flaming torches are going to get heavy, hauling them around all year, why not set them down and give the NEW TEAM and OUR coach a chance before you line them all up in front of the firing squad?
just a thought.

Wow... Local media does suck... Zam, you know I like you, but I'm laughing at this because, well, Steve Nash was the bomb before he was traded, traded back, to AZ. I remember seeing him and Dirk dominate games. The way I see it, you lost a Gem for a Gem.

[CanuckBroncofan]

Originally Posted by 0broncofan0

That's because it is. We just shrunk the field. There is no more need to have Marshall or anyone that can stretch the field b/c we no longer have a QB that can get them the ball. All our offense is going to be dink and dunk. Exciting woohoo!

Almost as exciting as New Englands offense that won the division every single year...woo hoo...I'll take dink and dunk and Wins thanks. And by the way Kyle Orton may not be a top tier QB but he is good and last year I think he threw 200 passes or so without an INT. I don't know what the future holds but you remove Clady, Harris and the rest of our O line and look at what Cutler has. Remove Marshall and Scheffler and Eddie Royal and Stokely. Jay is not going to be playing with the most talented team, but it was good enough for Kyle to have a winning record. I don't mind the deal and I think it was the best under the circumstances.

[CanuckBroncofan]

PFW associate editor Matt Sohn declares the Broncos winners

Man, are the Broncos feeling Mile High tonight! In trading Cutler, a 2-year-old in a 25-year-old’s body, to Chicago for a pair of first-rounders and Kyle Orton, Denver’s highly criticized newbie head coach Josh McDaniels has gone from whipping boy to boy genius instantaneously. Well, maybe he wasn’t sure that the one-time fiasco would work out so brilliantly, but intentions don’t matter. The bottom line is Denver kicked some Windy City tail.

Few value the importance of a franchise quarterback more than yours truly, but such a stance isn’t to be confused with doing whatever needs to be done to appease a premiere quarterback talent. Talent is the operative word here. Because the one thing Cutler proved throughout this tit-for-tat war of words is that he doesn’t have the mental makeup of a top-shelf triggerman. Receivers can get away with being petulant squabblers. Quarterbacks can’t. McDaniels, perhaps unwittingly, exposed Cutler for what he is: A physical dynamo with either pint-sized or excessive pride. Neither is good.

Talk to nearly any general manager in the league, and he’ll preach the prevailing wisdom: You build through the draft. Furthermore, they’ll say that given their druthers, they’d prefer to be selecting outside the top 10 because of the exorbitant contracts given to such players. Check, check for Denver. The Broncos now have their own pick at No. 12, in addition to the Bears’ choice at 18. Like what you got with Orton? Great, now bolster your sagging defense with Aaron Maybin and Brian Orakpo. Covet Mark Sanchez? You might be able to snag him at 12, or you can put together a package to move up and select him, or even Matthew Stafford. Not sure who you want? No problem. Stand pat, take the best players available and stop worrying about whether your quarterback agrees with your decision. The possibilities are endless.

McDaniels is 32. He’s in Denver for the long haul, and owner Pat Bowlen has proven he’ll commit to a skipper and not dump him at the first sign of trouble. It’s therefore critical that McDaniels, revered for his work with Tom Brady and Matt Cassel, has utmost confidence and trust in his quarterback. He didn’t choose Cutler. He did choose Orton, and will have also chosen Sanchez, Stafford or Josh Freeman if one of them lands with Denver in a few weeks. Given McDaniels’ QB track record and the fact that the Broncos have the NFL’s best pass-blocking offensive line, I like the new quarterback’s chances.

The Bears, meanwhile, don’t have a receiver worth throwing to, an offensive line capable of protecting him, or a coach who knows how to adjust to offensive personnel. But hey, at least they have a quarterback with a big arm.

[Harkov]

Originally Posted by 0broncofan0

Yeah now all we have to do is pay all those high picks. And oh yeah get a quarterback from somewhere too.

It's not going to cost us a ton. It will cost us a LOT less than the 100 mil contract Bus Cook is going to squeeze out of the Bears.

[Scottish_Bronco]

Cutler is a very talented QB no doubt about it.
But Bears receivers and o-line suck, lets see you replicate this pro bowl form Jay. Good luck, because u may need it! Well actually......i hope you suck in Chicago if i'm being really honest.

[Brand]

I wonder if the bridge was blocked off last night. The doomsayers were out in force.......

I will take wins, thank you very much......

[zambini15]

Originally Posted by artie_dale

Wow... Local media does suck... Zam, you know I like you, but I'm laughing at this because, well, Steve Nash was the bomb before he was traded, traded back, to AZ. I remember seeing him and Dirk dominate games. The way I see it, you lost a Gem for a Gem.

artie, my friend, NASH was nothing comparable to his MVP self when he first played with the suns, in fact he was traded along with FINLEY, and the vast majority of suns fans were more upset about the loss of FINNLEY, thats the gods honest truth !
yes, he and dirk played well together, but NOTHING like the contribution NASH was able to make once he returned to PHX and FLOURISHED in the DANTONI system !
same player, all things being equal, but in the right SYSTEM, he was able to accentuate his strength and diminish his defensive weaknesses!
without DANTONI and a 300 pound anchor ,how did nash look, struggling in the terry porter system, pedestrian at best !
now, with GENTRY, Nash once again can accentuate his offensive talents!
a players talents need the proper system to flourish!
so it is with simms and Orten, so it will be with our BRONCOS !
I have faith in JMCD and NOLAN !
players come and go, teams are defined by their coaches and the phylosophy they instill in the men on their roster !

[Brand]

Actually, Zam, (Broncos) fans need heros to worship, regardless if they win or not.

Hark, you are quick on the Logo, eh?

[DarthBronco]

I'm not sure I can hop completely on board with this trade until I see what Denver does with the extra picks??

I'll admit, I've allowed myself to daydream about McD turning Orton into Cassel II. The offense is loaded with talent, something I don't think Orton had to work with in C-Town.

I'm still sick that the whole situation had to come down to this. I believe if Cutler had changed his diaper and started learning the McD offense, we could have watched him take it up a notch this season. Wasn't meant to be though. In a way I'm glad this whole thing went down, because it showed Jay's true character (or lack thereof)

Considering Jay and Bus forced Denver's hand, I think the Broncos made out nicely: 2 firsts, a 3rd and a decent QB in return. Not quite the Herchel Walker deal, but still quite a haul.

I'm excited for the draft now and it feels good to move on from this stupid soap opra.

[artie_dale]

I'll give you that, Zam. Nash has flourished with the Suns, enough to be MVP caliber. As for our situation in Denver, I have no choice but to put my faith in our coaches and their decisions. All I know, I was very young when Denver picked up Elway but from what I've read and researched, Cutler and Elway kinda had the same early years as far as attitude, cockiness, arrogance, etc... The media and fans were split, just like we are today. I just hope we didn't make a mistake. Eventually, Elway grew up, I would expect Cutler could have too.