CUTLER TO THE BEARS!

[Rickomatic]

I remember when the Vikings went for the sure thing with a player named Hershal Walker. The Cowboys took those Viking picks and build a team that won a Super Bowl. How many Super Bowls have the Vikings won? Cutler was/is a good quarterback. He may even do well in Chicago. But he is one player. One player who thought he was bigger than the team.

[DarthBronco]

I remember many offseason's in the past when I would come here and read dozens of boring threads about who we were going to draft. At least this offseason gave us something to talk about

[Rickomatic]

An article that I agree with:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...=si_topstories

One part worth noting:

The Broncos will miss Cutler, because they have the best young offensive nucleus in football. Tackles Ryan Clady and Ryan Harris will both go to multiple Pro Bowls. Brandon Marshall and Eddie Royal are the best receivers in tandem 26 or younger in football right now. Last year, they, and Cutler, combined to form the number two offense in football, averaging 396 yards per game. Chicago averaged exactly 100 yards less, and was 26th in total offense. They have two talented young offensive weapons on the exterior --wideout/returner Devin Hester (if he ever gets to be a full-time receiver) and tackle Chris Williams, Cutler's former Vanderbilt teammate, at left tackle. But Williams is coming off a back injury, so we don't know how good he'll be.

Last paragraph:

The saddest thing here? Cutler could have been a truly great player in McDaniels' offense. He may be great with the Bears; he certainly has the talent to be. But the Denver attack was tailor-made for Cutler's brains and ability to throw the deep ball. Whatever he says now, I know he'll always wonder how great he could have been in that offense, with that bright young coach -- whether he liked McDaniels or not.

[Harkov]

Last year, they, and Cutler, combined to form the number two offense in football, averaging 396 yards per game.

who cares about yards?

#16 ranked offense in points scored

People only seem to remember the early part of the season when we were scoring 35+ points a game...

The bears, FYI were the 14th ranked offense last year in the category that counts...points scored

[Uncle Rico]

Originally Posted by Harkov

who cares about yards?

#16 ranked offense in points scored

People only seem to remember the early part of the season when we were scoring 35+ points a game...

The bears, FYI were the 14th ranked offense last year in the category that counts...points scored

Check to see if that ranking includes points scored by the defense and ST. I bet it does. And the Bears had to get scoring from their defense or ST to win games, because the offense certainly didn't score all that much.

[Uncle Rico]

Originally Posted by rickomatic

I remember when the Vikings went for the sure thing with a player named Hershal Walker. The Cowboys took those Viking picks and build a team that won a Super Bowl. How many Super Bowls have the Vikings won? Cutler was/is a good quarterback. He may even do well in Chicago. But he is one player. One player who thought he was bigger than the team.

Fine, whatever. Losing Cutler would be an easier pill to swallow had we got Quinn in return. Orton is so fraking bad. QB is the most important position in team sports and it's going to be painful as hell watching him struggle. I couldn't even watch Bears games, he was so bad.

[Rickomatic]

Originally Posted by Uncle Rico

Fine, whatever. Losing Cutler would be an easier pill to swallow had we got Quinn in return. Orton is so fraking bad. QB is the most important position in team sports and it's going to be painful as hell watching him struggle. I couldn't even watch Bears games, he was so bad.

What was the name of the stud player the Cowboys got back in the Walker trade?

[bud]

Originally Posted by rickomatic

I remember when the Vikings went for the sure thing with a player named Hershal Walker. The Cowboys took those Viking picks and build a team that won a Super Bowl. How many Super Bowls have the Vikings won? Cutler was/is a good quarterback. He may even do well in Chicago. But he is one player. One player who thought he was bigger than the team.

You are obviously too young to remember the Walker trade.

Everybody knew Walker wasn't capable of carrying a franchise. That trade was almost as ridiculous as the first rounder Seattle got for Rick Mirer. Everybody can see and smell a stupid trade... Walker was never able to produce anything on the field that could carry the offense. It was well known that he couldn't run between the tackles. Cutler makes all the throws.

The real tension in Dallas came from the way they dismissed a Hall of Fame coach and NFL icon... He deserved a proper send off and a retirement party.

Comparing a novelty niche running back and a coveted quarterback doesn't make sense.

[Rickomatic]

Originally Posted by bud

You are obviously too young to remember the Walker trade.

Everybody knew Walker wasn't capable of carrying a franchise. That trade was almost as ridiculous as the first rounder Seattle got for Rick Mirer. Everybody can see and smell a stupid trade... Walker was never able to produce anything on the field that could carry the offense. It was well known that he couldn't run between the tackles. Cutler makes all the throws.

The real tension in Dallas came from the way they dismissed a Hall of Fame coach and NFL icon... He deserved a proper send off and a retirement party.

Comparing a novelty niche running back and a coveted quarterback doesn't make sense.

I love you bud, I doubt that you are much older than me if at all. Walker was going to return the Vikings to their NFC winning ways. Only a few media folks felt like the Cowboys didn't get jobbed on that. After that next season though, most of the media had changed their minds and thought it was the biggest fleecing ever.

[bud]

Originally Posted by rickomatic

I love you bud, I doubt that you are much older than me if at all. Walker was going to return the Vikings to their NFC winning ways. Only a few media folks felt like the Cowboys didn't get jobbed on that. After that next season though, most of the media had changed their minds and thought it was the biggest fleecing ever.

Depends what form of media you prefer to follow.

Any seasoned football fan knows that running backs that can't run hard between the tackles don't make it. Barry Sanders being the lone exception.

I remember reading that Walker was a gifted athlete that just did not fit into an NFL offense. That nailed it.

[STRETCH1975]

Everyone has to remember that this is NOT the same system and staff we have come accustomed too. A player Like Kyle Orton can thrive in this system. I remember another Big armed QB that was let go and wasn't a good fit in this system (Drew Bledsoe). Of course Orton isn't Tom Brady, but Brady wasn't Brady until he got the chance in this system. When Brady was drafted nobody thought he was going to be what he became.
My point is lets just see what our QBs do in this system before we pass judgement on them.

[Uncle Rico]

Originally Posted by STRETCH1975

Everyone has to remember that this is NOT the same system and staff we have come accustomed too. A player Like Kyle Orton can thrive in this system. I remember another Big armed QB that was let go and wasn't a good fit in this system (Drew Bledsoe). Of course Orton isn't Tom Brady, but Brady wasn't Brady until he got the chance in this system. When Brady was drafted nobody thought he was going to be what he became.
My point is lets just see what our QBs do in this system before we pass judgement on them.

It doesn't matter where Brady was drafted. He is a huge talent. I think you and McDaniels forget how good Tom Brady is. Sure, Cassel played well under the guidance of McDaniels last season, but the drop off (in production and wins) b/t Brady and Cassel was great. Cutler is closer to Brady (in terms of talent and being able to make all the throws) than Orton is to Cassel. That is what really bothers me... not only did the Broncos trade away a franchise QB, we'll have to spend our Sundays watching Orton or Simms go three and out. Keep in mind both of these players lost starting jobs to Brian Griese and don't forget how he was run out of Denver.

[STRETCH1975]

Originally Posted by Uncle Rico

It doesn't matter where Brady was drafted. He is a huge talent. I think you and McDaniels forget how good Tom Brady is. Sure, Cassel played well under the guidance of McDaniels last season, but the drop off (in production and wins) b/t Brady and Cassel was great. Cutler is closer to Brady (in terms of talent and being able to make all the throws) than Orton is to Cassel. That is what really bothers me... not only did the Broncos trade away a franchise QB, we'll have to spend our Sundays watching Orton or Simms go three and out. Keep in mind both of these players lost starting jobs to Brian Griese and don't forget how he was run out of Denver.

I'm not happy Cutler is gone. Orton is just a bandaid. I'm more curious about who McDaniels is going to draft for a QB in this years draft or next years draft

[bud]

Originally Posted by STRETCH1975

I'm not happy Cutler is gone. Orton is just a bandaid. I'm more curious about who McDaniels is going to draft for a QB in this years draft or next years draft

You should be.

Because, most quarterbacks get drafted and go bust.

[ratsportrm]

Originally Posted by bud

You should be.

Because, most quarterbacks get drafted and go bust.

And you all realize that could easily happen to Cutler if he doesn't perform up to snuff in Chicago.

Sure, it could happen to Orton, too. But then again, Cutler was a first-round pick and first-round picks have much more to live up to.

[Uncle Rico]

Originally Posted by STRETCH1975

I'm not happy Cutler is gone. Orton is just a bandaid. I'm more curious about who McDaniels is going to draft for a QB in this years draft or next years draft

Let's be real. McDouche isn't going to draft a QB. He arrogantly thinks he can turn Orton into a bona fide starter. And we're going to suffer through the three and outs, bad throws, and head scratchiing decisions.

[Rickomatic]

Originally Posted by Uncle Rico

Let's be real. McDouche isn't going to draft a QB. He arrogantly thinks he can turn Orton into a bona fide starter. And we're going to suffer through the three and outs, bad throws, and head scratchiing decisions.

Plenty of people said that Shanny was so arrogant that he would not pick a running back that would do what had won him Super Bowls in the 90s. Denver had an offense that would move between the 20s and then fail.

[0broncofan0]

Originally Posted by Uncle Rico

Let's be real. McDouche isn't going to draft a QB. He arrogantly thinks he can turn Orton into a bona fide starter. And we're going to suffer through the three and outs, bad throws, and head scratchiing decisions.

We won't have to worry anymore after starting the season between 0-4 and 2-2. When the bye week comes I expect Nolan to be our head coach.

[Harkov]

...

Newly-acquired Chicago Bears quarterback Jay Cutler is known for holding a grudge, and he still seems to be holding one against Bears offensive coordinator Ron Turner stemming from an old recruiting dispute, according to Brad Biggs of the Chicago Sun-Times.

Citing people close to Cutler and a Denver Post column, some fences may need to be mended between Cutler and Turner now that they’re going to work together.

As a high school senior in southern Indiana, Cutler accepted a scholarship to Illinois where Turner was the head coach at the time. Cutler committed without visiting campus, though, and when he arrived for an official visit Turner reportedly pulled the offer.

“When Jay went for his official visit, the coach told him they were rescinding the offer because they had some hot-shot quarterback from California,” Heritage Hills athletic director Jay Burch told Denver Post columnist Woody Paige. ”

Illinois wound up signing Mike Dlugolecki, who wound up transferring to San Diego State. And Cutler had turned down offers from Purdue, Duke and Maryland to go to Illinois before winding up at Vanderbilt.

“It’s not right,” Jake Cutler, Cutler’s father, told ESPN.com. “I still have a bitter taste in my mouth.”

In the past, Turner has denied that Illinois rescinded the scholarship offer because Cutler was never made an offer.

Obviously, they’ll need to rehearse their lines a bit before the press conference today.

[Youmind]

ZAM.. easy on the CAPS... we hear you brotha.